on the debt ceiling and they blinked again on the budget. and delaying the sequester. you are right. i think obama -- obama don't you get the sense obama feels that now? >> yeah. >> feels the power more? >> absolutely. >> or willing to use power more? >> and willing -- feels he can have, if they have an apocolyptic showdown he will win it. they feel that, too. they don't emerge from the fights stronger. if, god forbid, they go over one of these cliffs it totally cleared whoever has the stronger hand amid the crisis. it becomes about what are we restoring? it's one that favors the democrats. >> ben, great to have you in the studio. thank so much. any time you come down to washington, you are welcome here here. >> thank you for having me on. >> bill: might get you on the phone from new york. we love people in the studios. come back and see us. buzz feed.com. i will tell you what the president is up to today. busy schedule. >> this is "the bill press show" live on your radio and current tv. [ music ] (vo) current tv gets the converstion started next. >> i'm a slutty bob h